The most comprehensive coverage of Miami Hurricanes Track & Field on the web with highlights, scores, game summaries, and … Appreciate that these coaches need good students to help fill out their teams, and as mentioned above engage with the coaches (never too early to get on the radar). Can you guys give me more school suggestions where I could get a lot of aid. That was perhaps naive or unrealistic. I know his scores are in the “possible” range for the schools – kids with his scores or lower have been admitted to all the schools according to Naviance – but his scores are not super mpressive. As a result, he knows his focus is on getting good grades and working at soccer (as well as his other extracurricular). Thread Ivy/NESCAC/UAA Track and Field Recruiting 400m. For Division I schools, sports are a huge source of revenue, … but it was confidence boosting for my son. Obviously others have more expertise than me, but I believe that most high academic D3’s don’t do prereads until July before senior year, and most coaches don’t make offers until after prereads, so yes, absolutely the NESCACs are waiting for Ivy and Ivy like recruits to fall into their laps (and they do), I don’t know at this point how that works. Needing aid complicates things. –If you will be applying for financial aid, ask for a financial aid pre-read, and understand how merit (if applicable) would work. ), your S has to contact other coaches and tell them about the offer, and ask for an updated timeline. The one D1 Ivy he went to has been radio silent – clearly not interested in him! Have you found that these coaches are waiting until after D1 commits happen in the hopes of scooping up a few of those? I know it is a funnel, but for those who’ve been through this, what are the odds he ends up with an offer at one of his top 7? Son wanted a small LAC. More positively, the high academic schools have a really hard time finding academically qualified sprinters. Continue to follow up with summer results. There are college coaches from many of the colleges above. He is a sprinter on the track team. The next real sign of interest will be if the coaches ask for a pre-read. Have you filled out a sport-specific recruiting form, such as through https://athletics.hamilton.edu/recruiting/recruiting_forms? At most of these schools the coach said their influence in admissions is limited; admissions is made aware of who the coach is interested in, but there is not much pull beyond that, at least for track. ... You will find a variety of recruiting standards and interest among the NESCACs. You will e asked to come to an OV visit in the Fall. Williams and Amherst, for example, have recruiting standards … Obviously a balance is required…need for info, but don’t want to be seen as pushy. Coaches set benchmarks for recruits, known as track and field scholarship standards, which represent the general baseline that student-athletes need to meet in order to obtain a track and field … Carleton, Pomona (and the other Claremont schools) usually offer pretty good need based aid. My son interacted with several of the NESCAC schools and I found the coaches to be very forthright though each have their own attributes. You should know fairly quickly who has interest. My advice for the UAAs is reach out to the coaches but focus on the rest of your admissions application. Scoreboard. Was told he was the top recruit, though I’ll allow for wishful hearing on my son’s part and perhaps he was actually a top recruit. Compare them with your times. Women's Crew. If you want to know (and I must say I can’t blame you), have your kid ask the coach the size of the pool, how many recruits are expected this year and where your kid stands. Some coaches may tell you that you need to hit an ACT of X to even be considered. I can’t stress enough that the kid has to want to attend the school as if there were no sport. –The timing will get tricky…some coaches are quick to get pre-reads done July 1, others take their time, may not even request info until Aug or Sept. Then the issue is that a early pre-read/offer coach may want an answer before your S even knows he will get a pre-read, let alone an offer, at X school. He wound up NESCAC freshman of the year in track. At 2 others he did receive invites to visit (note D3 schools do not have OVs like D1 schools and will not pay for you to visit). Women's Cross Country. NESCAC Recruiting. By Taylor Rae '13 PART ONE - Then and Now For coaches whose tenure spans the evolution of collegiate athletics in the digital era, a cultural shift within the recruiting world has kicked up applicants’ visibility on-screen and pushed back the timeline for when certain schools look to recruit their athletes. I’ve been emailing coaches from the leagues I mentioned earlier and some safety schools and have serious interest from some schools like WashU(HS typically sends 2-3 kids every year), Amherst, etc. NO HE HASN’T ASKED WHERE HE STANDS, HE’S ASKED WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR RECRUITING PROCESS AND MOST HAVE ANSWERED “YOU ARE ON OUR RADAR” AND ALL THE COACHES WANT TO SPEAK WITH HIM ON THE PHONE, YES HE IS CERTAIN HE WANTS TO PLAY IN COLLEGE. ... Track and field… At this time, we had “heard” of offers being made so don’t know if we had heard BS or if coaches weren’t following the agreement. It sounded more like an informal agreement than a conference rule. While the NESCAC… All positive/green light pre-reads. UAA schools are mid size university 5000 to 9000 undergraduates with professional and graduates schools that are located in large urban areas. If the coaches are actively reaching out to him, vs responding to calls/emails that is a better sign. It is fair to ask the coaches too…‘I attended X camp where you saw me, do you need to see me at this clinic’? @Midwestmomofboys thank you for your perspective on going to more clinics, now that you’ve written it, it makes perfect sense! Many D3 schools take plenty of walk ons too. @SmartTrackStar you can email coaches with your times, ACT score and UW GPA, if you are in the ballpark they will email you back. My main event is the 400 but I also help my HS team by running the 200 and 800. He was a 49 low junior year runner and he was heavily recruited by DIIIs but he had to get a little lucky to get his slot at the Ivy. I would get on their radar now. Have you done any OVs or UVs? Ask something like ‘what proportion of students that you offered a slot/a tip/full support have been admitted’? Have any of the coaches asked about his grades/scores? Daughter number one played volleyball. She wanted to go to a larger school in a major city. and he’s taking a double “load” of extracurriculars – a sport as well as another activity that counts as a sport, as well as playing club soccer outside of school – the kid is barely above water). Second question: he’s attended ID camps at some of those schools, and a couple are suggesting he come back for another one day clinic. I imagine that if you’re a super-stud coaches will put an offer out and wait but that’s not how they rated him. The other value is that current players typically work those one day camps, especially during the school year, and are giving feedback to the coaches about the prospects – who is an [insert expletive] and who would fit in well to the team culture. -gauging interest: one school has been putting the full court press on my son, inviting him to the campus to spend time with the team in season and now again, and they’ve called a few times. To be sure, football is different from soccer, if only because the soccer team size is smaller. All prospective student-athletes must be certified as amateurs prior to competing in intercollegiate athletics. Then, the summer between sophomore and junior year he went to four one-day ID clinics, which were a bit more targeted/focused/serious about recruiting. The track folks above know the times, but seems they are saying the bottom Ivies and range of NESCACs/UAA are a good start. This is a tough one. So I have a spreadsheet with all the schools, the coaches and contact info, and notes with every communication. Both schools won national volleyball titles during her 4 years . So far I’ve been talking to coaches from WashU, UChicago, Tufts, NYU(no response yet), Williams, Amherst, and Bowdoin. It’s also OK to ask where you fit in with their plans. The process really varies between schools. Have you visited any schools yet? If a coach is willing to offer support wit admissions they will tell you. If you have very specific questions, please DM me. In the sprints they are looking for really fast people. Torch College Recruiting is a recruiting platform that enables college coaches and track and field recruits to directly filter, connect, and chat with each other to simplify the recruiting process and give athletes the insight necessary to confidently navigate the recruiting … D19 handled most of the coach communications (primarily texting), DH joined in a couple of calls just to make sure good communications/terminology understanding was happening. They both had good times. Click on the link of the sport(s) that you are interested in to go to that recruiting form. Some of the schools on your list give merit aid (the less selective ones) and need based aid, while some only give need based aid. Check into doing the Complete Track and Field 2 day clinic held at Harvard this summer if it is not full yet. The pool is still pretty large at this point, so while the good news is that your son is in it, it’s very hard to tell where he ranks on the list. Especially if you have a very good indoor season. Fill out the recruitment forms for schools that you are interested in. I wouldn’t put a lot of effort into trying to get recruited at Ivy League schools. Also, I have never met a coach who will recruit off of relay splits. Rankings for middle school, high school, and college athletes. AGREE; HE’S VISITED ALL BUT TWO. Second question: he’s attended ID camps at some of those schools, and a couple are suggesting he come back for another one day clinic. I would go to tffrs.org and look at the D3 conferences and performance lists. He was originally admitted as a nonathlete. She chose to go to the school furthest away from home and had a great 4 years. –Visit all the schools and do the tours. My son went to a couple of multiday camps as a 9th grader, just to get his feet wet. These clinics are supplemental income for the coaches, but it also gives them further opportunity to evaluate. We did some school clinics, but only ones where other schools/coaches that my kids were interested in were also present, but this was driven by cost/time issues since we live in flyover land and wanted to get the most bang for each trip. If you’re hitting these track and field standards, and your Academic Index is strong, it’s still going to depend on the team’s needs in any given year as well as the quality of the other recruits. Texas A&M Athletics - 12thMan.com Main Navigation Menu. Here you'll have access to information about the college and inform I attend a decent public school in Missouri and have a 3.7 UW, 4.3 W taking the most rigorous course load available. (Nov 15 ED app deadline). There clearly is no one right way to do this; my son has a good friend who just committed to a top D1 program – this kid’s process was entirely different. Then the wait from Nov 15 to Dec 15 admission decision is long. CTF Clinic. I think my academics are ok because the Dartmouth coach told me he’d put me in contact with my event coach if I broke 50 and didn’t mention my academics. The group has turned in some … Do other NESCACs hold these? At the time I thought it was probably a situation where the college keeper found this 15 year old kid from another part of the country funny. have the strictest track and field recruiting standards … If they don’t say they will, don’t assume you are getting any significant help in the ED round. The increase is due to the NESCAC… My 10th grade year I continued with the 100m and 200m … UAA vs NESCAC. There are a few exceptions (Tufts should be UAA) but that is where your choice should lie in terms of choices. Send the coach a note. Appreciating the differences between a relay split and the 400 from the blocks, I’m guessing you might struggle to get a lot of Ivy coach support, whereas the NESCAC schools might be very interested in your being on their team. There are a bunch of soccer parents on this site who can speak more authoritatively on men’s soccer. @mamom2018 That’s good to hear, and congrats to your daughter. My job is to help him keep track of all the emails and communications (though as coaches start texting and calling obviously I can’t keep track of that unless my son tells me). Most NESCAC coaches do not ask admissions to do a crazy high number of pre-reads relative to slots (admissions would be unhappy)…so getting a pre-read is significant. She made a positive impression and was able to spend about 30 minutes with the coaches (unplanned time) while she and my husband were waiting for an Uber. This information is very valuable for all high school student-athletes to understand as they start the recruiting process. He did Bates in the fall. So now for the answer. For Ivy league schools it looks like your AI is around 214, based on 3.7 uw GPA and 31 ACT… 214 is below average and typically most recruits at that level would be in the helmet sports. She decided against that. Compare yourself against athletes in your district, your state, or the nation. In retrospect, I think the NESCAC coaches were waiting for the Ivy fallout to see if my son might end up at an Ivy and also to see which other players would “fall” to the NESCACs (and thus be an upgrade over my son). Event Men (Recruitment) Men (Walk-On) Women (Recruitment) Women (Walk-On) 100m 10.90 11.15 11.90 12.30 200m 22.00 22.25 24.75 25.15 400m 48.75 50.00 55.85 57.00 800m 1:55.0 … cinnamon1212 1399 replies 11 threads Senior Member. Your goal is to get on their radar, and ultimately a pre-read, maybe an OV. Women's Fencing. But if someone in Philly didn’t bother to make it to New London, that would tell the coach useful information. FOR EXAMPLE, DENISON IS A GOOD SCHOOL BUT IS ACADEMICALLY BELOW WILLIAMS/AMHERST AND THEIR SOCCER LEVEL IS A NOTCH LOWER AS WELL. He never talked to the track coach until after he graduated from high school. This is not true. In general, the large D1 colleges in the most prominent athletic conferences (Pac 12, Big East, Big Ten, Southeastern, etc.) You can use this resource as a quick cost estimator for some of your colleges of interest: https://myintuition.org/. S told me that several recruits this year at his school were not accepted. No? For his sister UAA. As a side note, this is a particularly good time to start reaching out to coaches. The official Track & Field page for the Stanford University Cardinal Ivy leagues want top 0.1% athletes and top 10% students; so a 31ACT is good enough to get into IVY as recruited athlete but your time may not be. Good luck. Schools that I don’t know too much about but have contacted me are UDallas, Grinnel, Oberlin, Denison, Vassar, Earlham, and Kenyon. So they can work. You can fill out the NPC at each school to get a quick idea about need based aid. When my son would switch fields the school’s keeper would follow him. My son says it is true. Not just fast, but top level fast. when a coach has hundreds of prospects “in the pool,” identifying who is interested enough to make it a one-day clinic is useful information. I am going into my junior year and so far my first two years of track have been disappointing. –Once an offer is made, make sure to understand the terminology being used (it differs by school). He has 7 top schools, most of which are NESCACs. You will find a variety of recruiting standards and interest among the NESCACs. NESCAC schools allow the coaches to submit pre-reads for July 1, and this a great way for the coach to find candidates who can get thru their admissions department. You may want to consider other D3 conferences. Put yourself in the coach’s shoes. I’m the captain of the track and mock trial teams, president of Rho Kappa, Senior Class Vice President, Senior Patrol Leader, and a member of the French Honors Society. Skip To Main Content. So keep working hard and don’t give up. I am aware of the fact that my 400 time is borderline so I am running in the summer with a club to improve my pr’s and medal in the JR Olympics in 4x800 and possibly 400. University Of Kentucky is located in Lexington, KY and the Track And Field program competes in the Southeastern Conference (SEC) conference. NESCAC are LACs with 1500 to 2000 undergraduates with no graduates. Anyway, my son is in the thick of soccer recruiting, and has taken the “cast a wide net” approach. When I went on the Naviance site later her ACT score was the lowest admitted. Access to the city made her time much happier. 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